[mallorymaloney]

Originally Posted by puzzlegirl

What we have here is a classic case of nature v.s. nurture. And none of us are wrong because they are both valid scientific arguments.

cool believes that nature supplies us with traits and instincts that dictate our behaviour and that we cannot change our nature.
Whereas I believe (and I am not the only one) that we can subvert our own nature through psychological means and that we are mostly influenced through social interaction, personal values and morals, etc.

That is all.

Ideally, we can acknowledge both nature and nurture. We have too much in common with other people of our own gender to ignore the nature aspect. BUT we must acknowledge how social constructs affect our behaviour as well.

closing arguments, please...

I agree with you, puzzlegirl --- This is definitely a nature verus nurture debate.

We all have a choice --- Statistics are such a generalisation, and why should we feel adhered by them, simply because they're there? Lame, man.

This isn't fantasy, this isn't the stone age --- It's modern day society, and we all have a choice in everything we do. We all need to stop obsessing over numbers ... It's all about numbers nowadays. Statistics, money, weight, height, age, stocks, time ... Not enough of it, too much of it --- There's never a happy medium when it comes to numbers. >>; But I'm going off on an unrelated rant here. XD;

With global warming, I guess I can say right now, the skeptics like yourself are in the minority, so it would not be a weird opinion of mine. It would have been a 'weird opinion' of yours. Anyways, I won't discuss that here as we had a thread that discusses that. I would be happy to answer questions on this though if you want to start another thread on it... and we can have a jolly debate there as well...

Well, you simply asked me what I thought was weird, not what the majority thinks is weird.

I have a lot of weird ideals, thoughts, and opinions --- But I'm fine with it ... I like being my own person. ^^;

Down with conformity!

As for 'Men do cheat', which you say you don't agree with which confuses me.. you don't agree that men cheats, or that you think it's not ok for men to cheat?

Whoops, sorry ... What I meant was, I don't think it's okay for men ((Or women!)) To cheat, period.

I have to totally, strongly disagree with this. I am highly creative and Art is my passion. Science is my passion too. And most of my 'scientific minded' friends are all very creative. In fact, I would argue that if you're not creative, you can't do science very well...
I believe that creative people are just people who can see more perspective and if they put their mind to it, they can do anything extremely well, whether art or science. All the greatest scientists are also artists... Leonardo Da Vinci for instance, Einstein for instance... etc..
And an 'Art major' does not automatically mean they are creative.. Creative people are hard to come by actually simply because our education system is geared towards training our left brain.... HOpefully today, more and more our school will teach more the creative side of our brain..

Whoops; I should've stated I was just using my own experiences to judge this. @_@

I consider myself very creative, and I've never gotten along with scientific people. And equally, scientific people have never gotten along with me.((Read: They usually think me to be an idiot. XD))

So yeah, that's just my experience with such individuals.