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Originally Posted by mallorymaloney

I agree with you, puzzlegirl --- This is definitely a nature verus nurture debate.

We all have a choice --- Statistics are such a generalisation, and why should we feel adhered by them, simply because they're there? Lame, man.

Mallory, you fell victim to puzzlegirls' portrayal of my arguments (which is not what it is)... but heck.. i guess you're already predisposed to bias in this subject matter... and everything I say will just be ignored....

And statistics are not generalizations.. if you have taken advanced statistics in university, you'll see how wrong you are... generalizations is when we have feelings about things and have no statistics to back them up...

Science is all about data and statistics... With statistics, we develop scientific theories that can predict future events and from there we can build rockets to the moon... etc,.... Without observasable data and proper statistics, we'll be living in the dark ages of religious believes.. believes for the sake of believe and feelings and emotions..

That not to say that people do not abuse statistics and there are no quack scientists who does not conduct an experiment the right way, and even people who make up stats as they wish like... we'll just have to learn to be critical and question them, but if there are extreme amount of data for a particular point of view, we MUST give it credence until such times that they are reversed...

Well, you simply asked me what I thought was weird, not what the majority thinks is weird.

I have a lot of weird ideals, thoughts, and opinions --- But I'm fine with it ... I like being my own person. ^^;

Down with conformity!

Ya, sorry, you said my points of view were weird... and yes, I really respect you for your stands in the minority view at times... If you can see my arguments, probably aside from Global Warming, where you just can't ignore the data (without the fake data supplied by the Bush government), most of my views are of the minority as well.. .

My standing up for the truth of men's sexual needs have evoked a firestorm in a predominantly women forum (In fact, I am the ONLY guy here)... and my views that religion is totally evil have evoked anger and perhaps puts my life at risk (as I live in a religious country) and some of the very cool asiajammers have suddenly stopped talking to me because they are angered by the truth, and I hope that I have the strenght to continue to stand up for truth and justice no matter the prejudice of people or groups of people... If you add up all my arguments, I have essentially alienated myself from almost 90% of the world's population..

So, ya, I am on your side when it comes to standing up for the truth even if you are the minority.. THere are not enough people of courage that will stand up against what the church is doing to us...

Anyways, Mallory, don't get me wrong.. I may disagree with you on both global warming and in this case Men's lack of control over their Hormones, but in the latter I think the disagreement is perhaps only due to misunderstanding of what I am trying to say... and there are those that will ignore everything I say, rephrase them to their advantage, and subvert others, in the end, I really liked debating with you because you don't get toooo crazy on the 'name callings'....

Whoops, sorry ... What I meant was, I don't think it's okay for men ((Or women!)) To cheat, period.

Agreed... it's a fine ideal and goal to achieve...

I consider myself very creative, and I've never gotten along with scientific people. And equally, scientific people have never gotten along with me.((Read: They usually think me to be an idiot. XD))

I don't think you're an idiot... If you escaped the pull of religion you must have some brains left over... anyways... don't let your creativity blind you from science... from creavity, you actually can help science... only creative scientists achieve the greatest success... they are one and the same.. creative means larger brain activities...