Good Republican?

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Is there such a thing?

I watched the entire Iowa Des Moines Register Republican Debate just now, and I find that there might actually be a nice, good person running on the Republican banner...

RON PAUL!

He actually makes sense!

This is his core values:

- DO NOT MURDER PEOPLE IN WARS! Do not start wars! PEACE!
- WORK WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD
- FREE TRADE (not just talking about it like the rest of the republican, but actual real free trade, no sanctions, with with cuba and others)
- Get rid of BIG Governments!
- Fair Tax
- Better education, health.
- Speaks the truth although it cause him popularity.
- Global warming exists and we need to do something about it!
- The dollar crisis

Ya, so, if you must vote republican, vote paul! He's probably the most honest person around.

[katzluva]

But dont all republicans enjoy making false promises? *shifty eyes*

[cool]

Originally Posted by katzluva

But dont all republicans enjoy making false promises? *shifty eyes*

LOL, funny!

But I think he's a real deal because the things he's saying does NOT resonate with the core-die-hard republicans and he's not very popular with his statements.

So, he's actually fighthing for real justice and peace, not for his popularity's sake.

That's how I know he's for real.

I think this guy, albeit, republican, can actually make america a better place and the world a more peaceful one as well, like Hillary, Obama, or a few of the other democrats!

[yoshissister]

i! am! republican!

[pinkhaireddreamboy]

^ I'm sorry : (

eh, Ron Paul is okay.. my dad likes him alright. He actually donated money to his campaign.

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Originally Posted by yoshissister

i! am! republican!

Wonderful!

We do need the republicans to keep the Democrats in check and vice versa.... check and balances and all that.... afterall, there are only 2 parties that matter in the US... remove ONE, and you'll have dictatorship...

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Originally Posted by pinkhaireddreamboy

^ I'm sorry : (

eh, Ron Paul is okay.. my dad likes him alright. He actually donated money to his campaign.

Again, your dad has proven to be wise indeed! I am now rooting for Ron Paul in the republican camp... and Hillary in the democrat...

[katzluva]

Originally Posted by yoshissister

i! am! republican!

She's republican cause she lives in the "middle" states, and the coasts like California and NY tends to be democrats.

Can someone give me a theory on why this is so? Does it have to do with open mindedness and more cultural diversity in the coasts?

[pinkhaireddreamboy]

^ Here's an interesting wiki page on it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states

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Originally Posted by katzluva

She's republican cause she lives in the "middle" states, and the coasts like California and NY tends to be democrats.

Can someone give me a theory on why this is so? Does it have to do with open mindedness and more cultural diversity in the coasts?

Actually it's not a theory so much as fact. Over the years, the Republican party has successfully branded themselves as the Christian Representative. You will see support for it in very religious states. Just the other day they were talking about just this issue on CNN.

And you're right, in big cities, it's more diverse culturally, and not everyone's a die hard christian and they see the democrats as more equitable and fair and more secular in nature.

Personally, I think all politicians today makes use of the people, and the Republicans makes use of the Christian right (although I may say that none of them are really that religious, just pretending to be). For example, Bush pretended to be all religious and fighthing to change the constitution to deny Gay Marriage, etc... which got him elected. But once in office, did he do anything about it? Nothing (which is good).

Here's how I look at it.

Both the republicans and the democrats have views that are good... In fact, the republicans are fighthing for a fairer tax system, but the democrats just want to increase taxes overall. The democrats 'pretends' to fight for the poor by trying to increase corporate tax and to tax the rich, but to be honest, when this happens, guess what? The corporations actually runs out of business and then the poor have no employment. People become rich becuase they are brilliant, they work hard, and when you punish them for doing just that, you create an environment where people becomes lazy.

But on the other hand, the republicans wants to go to war and pretends that that protects the country and they run on the banner of 'We are better than the democrats when it comes to national security'... that's a very simplistic view and it works because let's face it, most normal people cannot understand anything more complex and easily manipulated. In America, people equate pre-emtive war and high defense spending with national security. Very simple. But in actual fact, the US national security depends on a lot of things such as 'A strong economy, wise spending of money would do that, having a friendly foreign policy instead of an exploitative one, etc, etc'. It's too much to go into details, but you get the point.

In the end, you want to look for the lesser of two evils when you're voting for a candidate. Look at their policy, not at what people say they are or who they claim to be.

Religion is a big factor for people when they vote, and that's one of the major problems of religions. This is because you can never get the most qualified leaders if you have such strong prejudice. For example, Al Gore was a far, far, far, more efficient candidate than Bush, but because people vote religion, they rather forsake efficiency for a person who believes the same as they do.

The big factors that we are generally pre-disposed to prejudice are:

- Religion (the biggest factor as it's the MOST important factor for people)
- Race
- Culture
- Nationalism
- put your own list here

Anyone of those prejudices means you can't vote for the most efficient and best person for the job into office.

And thus, this is the main chasm that stands between world peace and the alleviation of misery and suffering in the world.

As for Nationalism:

If you go back to all my threads, you'll see that whenever someone mentions 9/11, I always throw in the '100,000 dead in iraq, caused by America'.. it's my little experiment. Did you notice that NOT A SINGLE person on AsiaJAM replies to it? I mean, no one 'cares' about 100,000 people they do not understand and who do not share their own cultures.

Ok, enough rambling.. I tend to do that.. ah... getting old!

[katzluva]

Originally Posted by cool

If you go back to all my threads, you'll see that whenever someone mentions 9/11, I always throw in the '100,000 dead in iraq, caused by America'.. it's my little experiment. Did you notice that NOT A SINGLE person on AsiaJAM replies to it? I mean, no one 'cares' about 100,000 people they do not understand and who do not share their own cultures.

Ok, enough rambling.. I tend to do that.. ah... getting old!

That very much gave me the answers I've been looking for. I've just forgotten about the importance of religion because I have lived in a very secular state for my entire life. (I also thought that america was weakly religious now compared to half a century ago).

Question to Yoshisister - Are you Christian?

Personally, I dont even think the people should be the ones electing our president. Everyone is too easily persuaded by what the television says, and hardly bother to read up on current politics or it's candidates anymore. I mean, cmon, the average American reads ZERO (0) books per year. That says a lot about our decision making alone.

And as for the 100,000 killed by America thing, I figure no one replied because it's already obvious? I mean, of course our country is responsible for the deaths of innocent civilians and soldiers...who else is? Do I care? Yes. Can I do anything about it? Nope. And so, we are silent.

[felinius]

Originally Posted by cool

RON PAUL!

Ya, so, if you must vote republican, vote paul! He's probably the most honest person around.

Sorry, but he's militant pro-life. It seems as if he lied about performing a late term abortion and believes personhood should be given at conception.

I thought that Ron Paul was a third party up until now?

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Originally Posted by felinius

Sorry, but he's militant pro-life. It seems as if he lied about performing a late term abortion and believes personhood should be given at conception.

I thought that Ron Paul was a third party up until now?

Ooh.. if he's MILITANT pro-life, then I must decline his nomination... But I get my info only from his debates... and abortion wasn't discussed much.. My general principles is never believe anyone who's absolute about anything. Cause, there are no absolutes in the universe!

If you turn back clock every generation, the 'Absolute Morals' of 'any' religions (I use religion because it seems like only religious people believe in absolute morals, ie, morals directed by god), changes drastically.

Once upon a time, the POPE decreed that Blacks are animals and have no souls and can be used as slaves with no moral issues. (look it up, the edict, or the papal bulls still have this).

So, when I hear all these new age 'Born again Christians' who are almost as fanatic as the fanatic muslims, it scares me silly. Going about bombing clinics, intefering with people's individual freedoms and marginalizing people who do not have the same belief system, etc..

Anyways, if Ron Paul is a fanatic militant dude, then i will have to remove my nomination.. if not, then go for Ron Paul!!

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Originally Posted by katzluva

And as for the 100,000 killed by America thing, I figure no one replied because it's already obvious? I mean, of course our country is responsible for the deaths of innocent civilians and soldiers...who else is? Do I care? Yes. Can I do anything about it? Nope. And so, we are silent.

I wish I could believe that katz..., but I think it's more sinister than that. I think, the American media has painted such a bleakful world (except america), that most Americans are so shielded that they can not understand or have any consciousness of other's suffering anymore. It makes it easy for the American Foreign policy to go about on a killing spree if the normal Americans do not understand the culture that they are slaughtering.

In fact, I did not come up with this theory out of thin air. I read a lot and this is what i get from books after books (written by Americans themselves).

If you read the Economic Hit Men, this American says precisely that.

Now, don't get me wrong. I think almost all Americans are GOOD people with a BIG heart, probably more so than a lot of people. But it's the Goverment and the Media that is creating a state where the normal Americans are completely clueless about the rest of the world.

Remember, before the Iraq war? How many of you believed that Iraq was an imminent threat? I believe most Americans are. (why? because of the media). But almost no one outside America believed it. (why? because we have alternative media).

The media plays with it's citizens anyway it wishes, makes you believe this or that.. whenever it wants.

Remember all those so-called "CNN Experts' who came up on interviews saying that they have seen teh weapons here and there and that they can't talk about the exact information becuase they are classifieds'? Remember? Where are they now? The media works with the government basically, and especially when wars loom, media loves it... they promote it..... because it means bigger viewerships... and more money... and they bring in all those 'fake experts' who says what they already want to promote and leave out the naysayers (the professors, the UN reps, etc, etc who truly understands what's happening).

Right now, today, there's a big cover up on alternative energy... It's Solar Power. Just watch the media and see how they handle it.... They will talk about the government really wanting to do something about being energy independent and research into alternatives.. and how much budget they put on the table? (a few dollars)... they just pay lip service.

Also, whenever they talk about alternatives do they really talk about Solar power seriously? You bet they don't. They will go on and on about ethanol, etc.. which is NOT a real alternative (because if you plant hte whole planet with corn, you will only be able to supply about 20% of the energy needs).

But whenever they talk about solar, this is what they will say 'it's too inefficient, too expensive, and may work far, far into the future'.. and then move on to other false alternatives.

Here's how you become energy independent if you want to honest truth:

1. Turn every home in America into solar roofs (the ONE trillion dollars spent on iraq would cover it).

2. Create giant solar farms in the desert.

3. Build electric cars which you plug into your solar home to re-charge.

Instantly you'll remove like 80% of the carbon emision, and no longer depend on middle east oil!